linda deutsche is joining us from los angeles, and charles "tex" watson's attorney, joins us from dallas. linda, this case must have affected your whole life. you were there from day one. how do you feel about the fact that there may be other murders out there that might have been committed by manson that los angeles police are trying to find out about? >> well, i'll tell you, this case is almost part of my dna at this point. it's been 43 years since the trial. and since the killings happened. i am not astounded by anything in this case. if new murders were to crop up, i'd say, well, okay, maybe. i don't see any evidence at this point that there were additional murders. tex watson at the time he spoke to his attorney, was possibly insane. by the time he came back to california, after a long extradition fight, he was declared insane. the lawyer at that time, i remember the judge all said he was a human vegetable at that point. >> let me ask you this. this guy, tex watson, what was his role in the manson murders? clearly a co-follower but what do we know he did? >> it was a very major role